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i remember first time i fell in love with a girl in a pool in disneyworld when i was 5.ur first time in love?
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whos seen the adjustment bureau and what did you think?
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batman may actually be cooler than james bond but james bond still is cooler than most things
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Best Eurovision song of 2011 and why??
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I'm boooored. say something funny or entertaining!!!
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When will playstation network be up againnnn??
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Gonna watch fast and furious 4, can't wait till 5 :p
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If i am to suffer then by god I'm bringing you down with me.
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I hate being alive, and I hate anyone who's against me.
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F*** doctors and propaganda.
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F*** arrogant noobs.
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so who here knows suffering?
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Thankyou for the tip american heart association.
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When coincidences become normality...
April 28, 2011

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and ive got such a long way to go to make it to the border of mexico :)
April 28, 2011

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jACKIE cHAN IS ALIVE AND WELL!!!
March 30, 2011

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fate..what do you think?
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- Vector-N
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- |March 30, 2011
- All these things exist, they are frames of contextual perception. There is Fate we are bound by it it is that part of our unavoidably causation which we must accept to be at peace. There is Destiny...you must choose this, it is not absolute that you will achieve it. there is the Chaotic, these things have no cause and most prefer to think they don;t exist...they do. There is the Void the lack of all things including any conceptuality of nothingness, it doesn't exist because this is the only way it can exist, all paradox comes from there.
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- IdioticPicnics
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- |March 30, 2011
- Shmate.
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- YogiEU
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- |March 30, 2011
- I think we create to big degree our destiny. However I also believe that our lives have underlying plan as well, and whatever we will try to do to avoid it, will be pointless. This fate can be played in hard way or in easy way - depending on our stubborness :)
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- - Vector-N
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  - |March 30, 2011
  - Destiny and Fate are not the same, they are diametrically opposed to each other they exist equidistant from each each other in the continuum of finalities.
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  - - YogiEU
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    - |March 31, 2011
    - I agree that they are not the same. To explain what I meant by stubborness is how far destiny we create is from fate.
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    - ventro
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    - |March 30, 2011
    - ok O.O
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    - - Vector-N
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      - |March 30, 2011
      - I mean things which are final. This is a whole spectrum of potential, but fate is certain (deterministic) and Destiny is founded in choice (free will). both exist though. In my experience objectivity and external perception is primarily the domain of Fate, which internal, subjective perception is generally the domain of Destiny.
        
        if someone wants to change their fate they have to turn inward to find their Destiny, and by dealing with that it is possible to change the nature of oneself and so to make new paths open to one in objective reality: to change their Fate. Ho ever the old fate is not rendered invalid...it remains, it simply doesn't carry as much sway as other Fates which have become accessible.
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  - ventro
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  - |March 30, 2011
  - reasonable answer :))
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fate..
March 30, 2011

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so parents basically raise you just so they can throw you to be eaten by the dogs/wolves and then laugh at you
March 29, 2011

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Life must be so much easier as an animal..
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Everything is eternal
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Watching The Expendables. EPIC
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My dad cant spell my name fml
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So earth day wtf happened?
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Airplay FTW.
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Anyone else notice police chasing cars for speeding is hypocritical??
March 26, 2011

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- DeepwaterPirate
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- |March 25, 2011
- Oh, I forgot drunk drivers. They speed
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- - ventro
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  - |March 25, 2011
  - when they feel threatened the speed more.
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  - - Jen8675309
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    - |March 25, 2011
    - my parents were killed by a drunk driver. should I blame police for that?
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    - - ventro
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      - |March 25, 2011
      - You should blame the drunk driver, and I'm sorry for your loss. All I'm suggesting here is better ways to make driving safer. Speed spawns more speed as we all should know.
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      - Katesz
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        |March 25, 2011
        
        You think that because police speed to catch speeders, it's going to cause more people to speed? That doesn't make any sense...
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        ventro
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        |March 25, 2011
        
        I mean if we want to get kicks we do it in a way that doesnt risk the life of other people..
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        ventro
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        |March 25, 2011
        
        Let me clarify. When somone speeds, other people either subconsciously or consciously see it and might think ooh that's looks dangerous and adrenalin-pumping awsome. Then we mistake our driving skills and cause an accident. People would agree that no-one besides adrenalin maniacs think it's smart to drive really fast..
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        Katesz
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        |March 25, 2011
        
        But when people see police trailing a car, or just on the road, they slow down. If there are no police on the road, people think they can do whatever they want. Maybe not if they know there are cameras as opposed to nothing, but I feel like actual police presence is a lot more intimidating than a camera.
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        ventro
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        |March 25, 2011
        
        Well tickets overrun speeding, no?
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    - Katesz
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    - |March 25, 2011
    - Enough drunk drivers have killed people without being chased by police. If police don't stop them when they notice their speeding/erratic driving, they could be leaving them on the roads to kill people.
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    - - ventro
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      - |March 25, 2011
      - Sure they can stop them, but is it absolutely necessary to break the speed limit and go off into high speed chases? don't they have walkietalkies to intercept the speeder. I dunno man i've obviously never lived in USA..
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      - Deimos
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        |March 25, 2011
        
        You need to provide an alternative. You can't just say, "this system does not work, I don't like it find another". If you can catch a speeding lunatic with a walkie, I'd like to see it. If you don't like knives because they're unsafe, you have to find out some other way of cutting your vegetables or you live without them. Same here.
        Either way, very few speeding incidences end in a high speed chase. Do we ticket the ones that stop and let the ones go that make a run for it? I'm sure that'd go over splendidly.
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        Katesz
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        |March 25, 2011
        
        Yeah, well they have to catch them before they can stop them, haha. And they do intercept, when it's possible.
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        ventro
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        |March 25, 2011
        
        How catch them exactly? with their hands? by crashing into each other?
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        Katesz
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        |March 25, 2011
        
        However they can. Idk, I'm not a cop. I guess what I meant was, they can't just yell "stop" out the window and expect them to do it.
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- NoMemory
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- |March 25, 2011
- Actually, the cops don't speed until you do. And you're fully aware that if you speed, they will chase you. Which makes you responsible not just for your speeding, but theirs as well. The rules were in place before you decided to speed. Hence, Deimos' "provocation based" comment. Think about it.
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- - ventro
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  - |March 25, 2011
  - You sound like a villain from batman. "The villain points his gun at someones head and says if the other innocent person doesnt do as he says it will be the other innocent guys fault that the villain pulled the trigger".. :/
    doesn't matter what way you turn it it's still hypocritical and is poses risks to innocent civillians. Why can't they just get the licence number and find the car later or with a helicopter if necessary...
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  - - Katesz
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    - |March 25, 2011
    - Sounds like somebody got a speeding ticket and is bitter.
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    - DeepwaterPirate
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    - |March 25, 2011
    - What if it has just been car-jacked, and there are innocent people needing help? Or stolen and involved in other crimes, How you gonna expect them criminals to be brought to justice if you mail a ticket to the address that is listed on the registration???
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    - - ventro
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      - |March 25, 2011
      - You're right if it was a long time ago, however this is the 21century technology is crazy advanced there must be other less risky ways to find them, like cameras. Besides today's cars are impossible to steal with all the advanced electronics..
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      - Katesz
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        |March 25, 2011
        
        Or magic. We could just use magic. We have that, right?
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        ventro
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        |March 25, 2011
        
        Mabye. Anyway what's so hard to understand about normal cameras capturing high speed vehicles. You're all vouching for speed and non-safety. I mean why make things difficult when things can be pretty easy.
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        Katesz
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        |March 25, 2011
        
        Why would police waste their time and resources trying to track down someone they saw speeding on a camera instead of just stopping them right there? That's just fucking retarded.
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        ventro
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        |March 25, 2011
        
        Anyway, besides the point which we're way off here. Oil is soon gone so vehicles probably won't go as fast as before and out future seems more "green" or more respectful with integrity and concern for everyones well being, no?
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        ventro
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        |March 25, 2011
        
        It works here in Sweden why shouldn't it work in USA..?
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        Katesz
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        |March 25, 2011
        
        I just don't see anyone here agreeing to that. Someone told me that Sweden doesn't have speed limits. Is that just one region, or just certain roads, or did I confuse the country?
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        ventro
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        |March 25, 2011
        
        So it become safer for innocent civilians..
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        Jen8675309
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        |March 25, 2011
        
        21st century magic :)
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        DeepwaterPirate
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        |March 25, 2011
        
        If somebody runs from the cops, they are not just trying to avoid a ticket, more than likely.Let the fox in the sky trail them. There are ways to shorten the chases, like disabling the car( if it's equiped) Some police agencies actually have cannons that will fire a gps locator that will stick. Just think about it for a while, Police chases bad, criminals getting away with crimes worse.
        Oh, and take care of your warrents ventro! So you don't have to run.
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        Jen8675309
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        |March 25, 2011
        
        Where in the world do you come up facts like this? Grand theft auto will continue to be a crime as long as there are cars.
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        ventro
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        |March 25, 2011
        
        Ok you try and steal a new car today...
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        Jen8675309
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        |March 25, 2011
        
        That logic is ridiculous. I don't have the skill set, nor motive, nor means to steal a car.
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        Deimos
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        |March 25, 2011
        
        Unfortunately we do stand for a utter loss in civil liberties. Congress just extended the PATRIOT ACT a few weeks ago. They can say "terrorist" and get any information about you ever and you can't even video tape them without getting arrested. I wish it were that way Jen, but people have changed and government picked up on it. They're moving to censor the internet and already websites and emails are being archived by police and government agencies. Can someone say Ministry of Truth?
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        ventro
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        |March 25, 2011
        
        Look. I'm gonna explain how cars are stolen ok? Fist the guy either picks the lock or breaks the window. Which ever way will trigger an alarm. Next in new cars they can't get anywhere cuz hotwiring doesnt work on new cars. so they'd have to haul the entire vehicle which is very hard to do and could easily be intercepted by a normal car at that speed.
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        DeepwaterPirate
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        |March 25, 2011
        
        Can new cars prevent carjacking? Or the spouse getting away from the scene of the domestic violence? What if it was a house invasion and they kidnap the car owner?
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        ventro
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        |March 25, 2011
        
        All these scenarios seem normal to you people. I say again, cameras.
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        Jen8675309
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        |March 25, 2011
        
        Here in America, we're not going to stand for cameras all over the place. Big Brother policies may work for Europe but that will never fly here.
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        ventro
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        |March 25, 2011
        
        What's the excuse, you guys are to patriotic to have cameras around? You guys do crime so often you're actually criminals the lot of you?
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        Jen8675309
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        |March 25, 2011
        
        Its a little thing called civil liberties. We don't believe in putting honest law abiding civilians under video surveillance for no reason. Who's gonna pay for the cameras? Who's gonna watch the footage? Who's going to be responsible for maintaining the whole system?
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        Jen8675309
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        |March 25, 2011
        
        I think we can poke holes in this argument all day long. I think I have better stuff to do though.
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        ventro
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        |March 25, 2011
        
        You go do your stuff.
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        Jen8675309
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        |March 25, 2011
        
        So....if I steal your key, I won't be able to steal your car?
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        ventro
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        |March 25, 2011
        
        sure. but you wouldnt get far without anyone noticing. Perhaps not in America cuz everyones seen movies and do crazy stuff, but here in sweden it's actually already working not to chase cars.
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- Deimos
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- |March 25, 2011
- No. What's the alternative? Allow them to go 110 while the cops trail at 65? It's provocation-based Holmes.
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- - ventro
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  - |March 25, 2011
  - it is hyprocritical. The cops ask us not to speed and then cops do it...
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  - - DeepwaterPirate
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    - |March 25, 2011
    - They speed after YOU speed.
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    - - ventro
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      - |March 25, 2011
      - sorry, what?
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    - Deimos
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    - |March 25, 2011
    - Ok, if you say so.
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    - - ventro
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      - |March 25, 2011
      - I dont say so, it is so. Look it up "hypo" comes from greek, means "under" and "kritikos", well u guess. anyway it means to advocate not doing something which you yourself do, usually a vice.
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      - Deimos
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        |March 25, 2011
        
        Thanks, I wasn't aware...
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what is objective beauty?
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Is beauty objective ?
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- guitarlord201
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- |March 27, 2011
- I think we can all say that Angelina Jolie is hot. :)
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- - ventro
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  - |March 27, 2011
  - That's the best point I've ever heard :)
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  - guitarlord201
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  - |March 27, 2011
  - mmm, and Natalie Portman too (shes uber smart as well)
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  - - ventro
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    - |March 27, 2011
    - Yesss
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- YogiEU
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- From objective perspective things are neutral (neither ugly nor beautiful). However things are more or less likely to be called beautiful or ugly by people. We could call this distribution of votes as objective beauty. I guess objectve beauty exists - otherwise guys improving celebrities using photoshop wouldn't have anything to do. However at the end subjective perception wins.
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- - ventro
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  - |March 25, 2011
  - thats something i could agree with..both that is.
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- Deimos
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- |March 25, 2011
- no
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- - ventro
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  - |March 25, 2011
  - care to elaborate..?
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  - - Deimos
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    - |March 25, 2011
    - You could define objectivity as contingent on human perception thereby stating that no matter what person smells this, they would be repulsed due to the makeup of the human body, but when you put constraints on objectivity it fails to be so. Obviously, the human body is not static and unchanging enough to start basing objectivity on also. I posit beauty is subjective.
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    - - ventro
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      - |March 25, 2011
      - Still we can never know right, cuz someone may lie so we can never know :(
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      - ventro
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      - |March 25, 2011
      - what if theres both subjective and objective beauty..that'd be interesting..
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      - Deimos
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        |March 25, 2011
        
        If that were the case, we'd all be in trouble. "Scientists find that Bon Jovi is the only objectively appealing music in the world and we're all just fooling ourselves."
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        ventro
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        |March 25, 2011
        
        i see your point :p
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    - Deimos
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    - |March 25, 2011
    - We are sensory being. We take sensory input and manipulate it depending on how we've learned and been conditioned to handle it. Quantitative reality and logical derivations can be objectively reasoned, complex qualitative reality cannot. Although something may be accepted as beautiful by 100% of the population, that does not make it objective. If someone is born down the line that dissents, the objectivity of said phenomena would fail to exist and objectivity is not contingent on sample size or agreement, but by definition independent of individual evaluation. If there are 3 coins on the table, there are objectively 3 coins on the table. No one seeing or touching the coins could come to another valid truth. A picture being beautiful is a complex qualitative judgment. There are things like sounds and smells that are attractive or unattractive to humans due to our composition, but that does not make the them objectively pleasant.
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    - - ventro
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      - |March 25, 2011
      - for arguments sake, say we were all blind and when you cant feel things, then what? is there still objective coins?
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      - Deimos
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        |March 25, 2011
        
        There are coins obviously, but we cannot make claims without information. I can claim that there is objectively a dragon flying around the pentagon, but we can't see, hear, feel, taste, touch him and none of the equipment we currently have can sense his presence, but he is objectively there. Sensory input is not a prerequisite for objectivity, but for claims. Truth is objective and no matter what we claim, we cannot prove that we have truth because claims by definition are based on observable fact which is gathered by sensory input. Objective fact is an asymptote we can only assume through empirical observation. Epistemology is an angry beast indeed.
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        ventro
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        |March 25, 2011
        
        like atoms, we cant see them but if we use special technology it proves that its there somehow..
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does anyone here do jujitsu?
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